From: Tyler Opatrny <Tyler@(email surpressed)>
Subject: rushd service command line setup
   Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:22:09 -0500

Would be a cool feature to save on setup time.

Tyler Opatrny wrote:

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In windows xp, is there a way to edit the rushd service to be able to specify the username and password for the service all in command line? Or before I do the rush install is there a file i can edit to have it automaticly use a certain username and password.

Would be a cool feature to save on setup time.

	I don't think you can do it with the base OS software.
	I wish it could.. as that would be cool for automating installs.

	I believe the correct way is to use either regedit or one of
	the windows server admin tools to propagate the settings from
	one working machine to the others.. I'm not sure how that works
	myself.. a good book on Microsoft Administration probably covers that.

	At very least I would think the Microsoft Resource Kit might have
	such a tool, but then you'd have to install that on each machine,
	and that's not freeware last I looked.

	I know you can create new users with 'net user /add' which might
	be handy for creating the local rush user (if you're using WORKGROUPS
	instead of DOMAINs)

	But I'm not sure there's a way to change the service settings
	from the command line, esp. service usernames and passwords.
	There might be some freeware out there that lets you do this,
	if the resource kit doesn't.

	If there is a way to do it with the built in windows software,
	I don't know it.
	

example, instead of it defaulting in the log on tab as local system account, i want it to choose "This account" and be able to use whatever username and password i want.

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Tyler Opatrny wrote:

In windows xp, is there a way to edit the rushd service to be able to specify the username and password for the service all in command line?

	*Actually*, it looks like in XP Pro there /is/ a way to do this.
	In short, the 'SC' (service config) command:

sc config rushd obj= <USERNAME> password= <PASSWORD>

	Lets' say you want to set the "Log On As" info:

This Account: .\render
    Password: rush

	..then apparently the command line that will do this is:

sc config rushd obj= .\render password= rush

	Note the strange presence of spaces after the = signs.
	Microsoft comes through again in bizarro syntax.

	I've known for a long time about the SC command, but
	it's only been part of the Windows Resource Kit, an
	add on that few bother to purchase, and had to be
	installed on each machine.

	Looks like as of XP Pro it's now part of the OS.
	About friggin time.

	This cool book I bought a year or so ago, published
	by Microsoft seems to cover this and many other topics
	of command line oriented admin of windows, which I can
	definitely recommend:

             Title: "Windows Command Line Administrator's Pocket Consultant"
         Publisher: Microsoft Press
              ISBN: 0-7356-2038-5
        List Price: $29.99 US

    I don't think you can do it with the base OS software.
    I wish it could.. as that would be cool for automating installs.

	(Replying to myself) Well, that used to be the case.

	It certainly was with Windows 2K and NT, that command did not
	come with unless you installed the Resource Kit.

    At very least I would think the Microsoft Resource Kit might have
    such a tool, but then you'd have to install that on each machine,
    and that's not freeware last I looked.

	This SC command is the one I was thinking of in the resource kit,
	but I put it far out of my mind back in 2002, because the resource
	kit was not available to most folks.

    I know you can create new users with 'net user /add' which might
    be handy for creating the local rush user (if you're using WORKGROUPS
    instead of DOMAINs)

	This book also covers ways to completely administer active directory
	services from the command line (eg. dsquery, etc), so that you can
	add/configure/change/remove domain users, and the like.

	Handy stuff, if you take windows administration "seriously".
	I still think MS is all a big mess and can't wait for it to be
	washed away.

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On 31 Jan 2007 03:34:29 -0000, Greg Ercolano <erco@(email surpressed)> wrote:

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> Tyler Opatrny wrote:
>> In windows xp, is there a way to edit the rushd service to be able to
>> specify the username and password for the service all in command line?

instsrv, the app that's used to install the service on win32 (see
install.bat) actually
accepts the flags -a and -p for account and password respectively.

The downside here is that the password is in clear-text in install.bat
so protect the installation point appropriately.

Be aware that the account you specify must have the 'log on as a service' right.
I accomplish this by setting it through group policy in AD.

/Niklas
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Niklas Aldergren wrote:

On 31 Jan 2007 03:34:29 -0000, Greg Ercolano <erco@(email surpressed)> wrote:

[posted to rush.general]

The downside here is that the password is in clear-text in install.bat
so protect the installation point appropriately.

	The problem I recall with instsrv is that if you supply
	the -a/-p flags, they'll only work if the service is not
	currently installed.

	So to make a /change/, you must first remove the service
	with 'instsrv Rushd remove', then re-create it with
	'instsrv Rushd c:\rush\etc\bin\srvany.exe -a .\render -p render',
	and then re-apply the registry settings for the command line
	arguments.

	I think an approach I can take is to make the install.bat
	take optional <USERNAME> and <PASSWORD> settings on the
	command line, eg:

install.bat -user .\render -pass render

	So that if those flags are specified, the script will pass
	the -a/-p flags to instsrv.

	I'll do some tests.

	Either that, or I can have the script call SC.EXE to do
	the job more easily.

Be aware that the account you specify must have the 'log on as a service' right.

	Both the SC command (if available), and the instsrv command
	will do this automagically. In the case of instsrv, it seems
	you must first remove then re-create the service and re-apply
	the registry settings, eg:

instsrv Rushd remove
instsrv Rushd c:\rush\etc\bin\srvany.exe -a .\render -p render
reg add HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\rushd\Parameters
reg add HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\rushd\Parameters\Application=c:\rush\bin\rushd.exe

	..which would set up the rushd service to run as 'render',
	password 'render'.

	SC is a little bit easier if all you want to do is change
	the username/password.

	I'll follow up to this thread if I find this works well across
	all the windows platforms.

Be aware that the account you specify must have the 'log on as a service' right.

    Both the SC command (if available), and the instsrv command
    will do this automagically.

	..regarding that last statement, I should underline it sets up the
	service 'Log on as' info IF the user/password are specified on the
	instserv/sc command line. In other words, when user/pass is specified,
	the 'Log on as: Local System account' is disabled, setting up the service
	to run as that user/pass instead.

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